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to be closing up more than 200 points. margie from wells fargo funds management joins us, so does michael from destination wealth management and joe greco will be with us in a few moments here. rick santelli is staying late as well with this rally here. >> ready to go, joe? >> yes. >> what do you make of the rally? >> i guess when republicans want to peek past what is involved besides a tax increase, that signals a compromise. so, the markets say, hey, maybe they'll work things out in washington. the unfortunate thing is this lift today will be met with more selling as we get closer to the holiday and the long weekend. >> this is not a new phase here -- >> you can look at volume, behavior of the trading and it looks like we'll have a little more of a lift. we've broken through a level that held nicely. started to lift onto the tail end of the day. i think if we can get a little closer to the tail end, but toward the end of the year, we'll test higher. >> do you believe this is a rise above rally? do you believe it won't hold? >> it's going to be very choppy. what bill mentioned about the 200-m
-on cnbc interview. good to have you on the program. thanks for joining us. >> sure, maria. >> well, tell us, what happened first yesterday at final mediation talks? was a deal ever close? >> you know, the judge has a gag order. he'll have my head if i talk about what went on during the mediation, but i think that he wanted to make sure that he did everything in his power to try to find a deal, if there was one to be found. you know, i appreciate the fact that he went through that effort. i was hopeful, but i think realistically that was going to be a tough thing to pull off. >> how much of an implication it was the fact the union leader did not show up to those mediation talks? >> well, the leader of the bakers union sent his second in command to the meeting. i think that part of what we needed to sort of focus on is the hole that's been created by the strike and the financial damage from that strike and our inability to produce at some of our critical plants. really just created a brand new hole that was too large to fill. bankrupt companies don't have a lot of margin for error to begin
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